In marriage, we’re not supposed to be unequally yoked.

We tend to think of that as meaning that we shouldn’t marry unbelievers. But what if it’s more than that?

In today’s podcast we do a little hip hop across different topics, because we had numerous small things we wanted to cover–including an old article from Brio that made us laugh and an interview with an amazing counselor on how to find a counselor if you need one!

So listen in!

Or, as always, you can watch on YouTube!


Timeline of the Podcast

0:13 Announcements
3:00 When your marriage is equally yoked, you are affected by one another!
10:45 What equally yoked ‘doesn’t mean’!
12:50 How to get your marriage into a good place
19:30 How we view marriage can set us up to not be equally yoked
22:20 An interview with Micah Morgan on healthy counseling
44:30 A great RQ discussion on being single and the dating scene
57:30 Finishing with encouragement!

Main Segment: Don’t Be Unequally Yoked!

Rebecca and I look at how in marriage, we’re supposed to be equally yoked, which means more than just that you’re married to a Christian. It means that you’re a team. A yoke was a wooden apparatus that linked two oxen so they could plow together. They’d each pull in the same direction.

When you’re equally yoked, you’re both working. You’re both aiming for the same thing. You notice if someone else falters or falls down, and it matters to  you. That’s what marriage should be, and it’s okay to call it out if it’s not like that!

How to Find a Counselor with Micah Morgan

I also interviewed the wonderful Micah Morgan, a licensed counselor, about how to find a counselor if you need some counseling, and what to look for to know if they’re going to be a good fit.

And I showed you what a good counselor’s bio should look like–their education; the fact that they know evidence based therapies; the fact that they have specialties, like this:

Micah Morgan earned her master’s in Clinical Mental Health Counseling from CACREP accredited Ashland Theological Seminary. She uses cognitive behavioral, trauma-informed, Family Systems-informed, and attachment-based counseling techniques. She specializes in treating mood disorders, anxiety disorders, stressor-related disorders, couples issues, and family issues. She is skilled in integrating cultural issues like insight concerning the stage of life, family of origin insights, and issues stemming from the Black cultural experience into the treatment process.

Micah Morgan

Apex Counseling

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We read a really weird article from Brio magazine from a guy who thought he was in a relationship–but wasn’t

We’re writing a mother-daughter book right now, which means we’ve been reading a ton of materials that millennial moms would have read growing up. And Rebecca found this gem of an article written by a guy who was surprised when his high school girlfriend called him a few years after graduation to tell him that she was engaged.

He had thought they were going to marry each other, even though:

  • He wanted to go to a different college and made no effort to go to the same college she went to
  • They agreed that they wouldn’t continue dating
  • He only called her every few months to catch up
  • He had never told her he loved her or that he wanted to marry her

But when she got engaged, he was shocked and disappointed, and somehow it was this girl’s fault.

Anyway, we had fun with that one! (And you can read the article for yourself here!)

Things Mentioned in This Podcast


Marriage Should Be a Team Podcast

Do you have any tips for finding a good counselor? And what do you think of that Brio article? Let’s talk in the comments!

Sheila Wray Gregoire

Sheila Wray Gregoire

Founder of To Love, Honor and Vacuum

Sheila is determined to help Christians find BIBLICAL, HEALTHY, EVIDENCE-BASED help for their marriage. And in doing so, she's turning the evangelical world on its head, challenging many of the toxic teachings, especially in her newest book The Great Sex Rescue. She’s an award-winning author of 8 books and a sought-after speaker. With her humorous, no-nonsense approach, Sheila works with her husband Keith and daughter Rebecca to create podcasts and courses to help couples find true intimacy. Plus she knits. All the time. ENTJ, straight 8

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