What do you do if your spouse isn’t interested in sex?
Last month, in my 29 Days to Great Sex series, I was talking about how to make sex great: how to want it, how to be enthusiastic, how to make it fun. But then the emails started to arrive:
What do I do if my husband doesn’t want to have sex? What do I do if my wife won’t read this series with me? What do I do when my spouse just doesn’t think sex is important?
We’ve been looking for the last two days at some reasons that men may not want sex.
Other Posts in our “Husband Doesn’t Want to Make Love” Series:
I am a Christian and love my God. However, at this time, I am struggling with being very angry with God because I am a “good girl,” raised in a Christian home and although I dated a lot before marriage (and fooled around), I saved myself for marriage and for my husband. Now I feel like I’ve been cheated or robbed. I know life’s not fair, and that there are worse things people are dealing with, but for me, I feel lonely, rejected, and bitter. He is a fabulous man, father, and husband, but it breaks my heart that he doesn’t see any need for sex in marriage. He’s not into porn, addicted to anything, etc….just apathetic towards sex. In a way, it’s worse, because there’s no “addiction” to stop, no “sin” to confess, nothing that can be “fixed.” Even with his testosterone levels raised to where they should be, he doesn’t really care about sex at all.
He still makes love to me because he knows it’s something I need, but I wish it was something HE actually needed, too.
She’s a little more fortunate, because at least her husband does acknowledge his wife’s need for sex and tries to meet it. Many people who wrote me don’t even have that. Their spouses have basically checked out. Tomorrow we’ll look at what to do when your spouse has decided to withhold sex, almost permanently.
But today let’s deal with this problem: how do you help a spouse who does not have a drive for sex or an understanding that sex is important understand what your needs are? How do you talk to a spouse who doesn’t seem to want to have sex at all? Now, as I mentioned in the last two posts, a lot of the times when spouses aren’t interested in sex pornography is the root of the problem. If that’s the case for you, then here are 4 things you need to do if your spouse uses porn. For the rest of this post, I’m going to assume it’s not that your spouse is getting sexual release elsewhere, but it’s honestly that your spouse just plain isn’t interested.
3 Thoughts if Your Spouse Isn’t Interested in Sex
1. If Your Spouse Isn’t Interested: Get Your Heart Right First
Don’t enter a conversation angry or bitter. If your spouse has wronged you, go to God with that anger and ask Him to help you forgive. You need to have a conversation where you pursue what is best for you as a couple. Having a conversation where you’re trying to get him or her to acknowledge how much they’ve hurt you won’t necessarily help your relationship. There is a time to bring this up, once things are looking better, but if the desire is to move your relationship towards greater intimacy, that is what you should be focusing on, not vengeance. God calls us to love our spouses wholeheartedly, even if they don’t meet our needs.
2. If Your Spouse Isn’t Interested in Sex: Focus on Intimacy, not Sexual Release
Your spouse has an issue with sex. Chances are they find it a somewhat distasteful–if not very distasteful–obligation. It could be because they have really negative attitudes about sex; or it could simply be because they’re tired, they’re sick of having things on their to-do list, and they don’t want to have to do something energetic that they have to “get in the mood” for.
If you talk about your sexual needs, chances are this is what your spouse will hear (or at least this is what they’ll read in to what you’re saying):
So what should you do instead? Focus on the real issue–the one that both of you share. You want more intimacy, and sex is a doorway into intimacy. I would say something like this:
I really believe that God created us to long for each other and to be able to experience major depths of love and intimacy. I believe that God wants us to feel passionate about each other, close to each other, and truly intimate, so that we know that we’re not walking through life alone. I want us to feel so madly in love, and I want you to feel how much I love you. I want us to feel like we’re totally one, and I believe that the way that God made us to express that is through sex.
I know sex can be difficult for you, and I know you’re tired a lot of the time. I know you feel like you don’t have a lot of desire. But I’m worried that our lack of intimacy is actually partly the cause of some of that exhaustion. If we could really feel passion and really feel as if we were truly connected, perhaps much of the angst that we have both been feeling lately would evaporate.
I think God wants you to live such a big life. God wants you to enjoy everything that He created you for, and I think that we’re robbing each other of the gift of passion that God put in us. Do you think that we could try to rediscover passion together? I know it’s not easy, because you feel like you don’t have a sex drive. But it’s not just about sex; it’s about feeling so close to each other. That’s what I really want. Can we talk about how we can feel that intimacy, that passion, that closeness? And how we can make it easier for you to feel it? Because that’s what I think our marriage needs.
In other words, you’re focusing on intimacy and love, and not on release. The conversation doesn’t become about sex, or what you do in bed, or how often is enough. It focuses on how we can feel love for each other and how we can really experience passion.
Don’t argue about sexual release. Don’t argue about sexual needs. Don’t bring up 1 Corinthians 7:5, about how your spouse’s body belongs to you. That will not likely help the situation (even if it is true). Instead, bring up your desire for intimacy–an intimacy that will empower you both, energize you both, and equip you both to deal with the world together. When a couple is really experiencing that, they can take on the world.
Then the discussion can turn more to overcoming roadblocks for sex, like I’m just too tired, or I don’t really enjoy it, and you can start looking at how you can address these things to make intimacy easier. If your spouse is nervous about it, you can talk about it in a loving way, saying something like,
Now, some people are bound to chime in and say that I’m being too easy on the spouse. If they’re not meeting needs, they’re sinning and they need to be told to shape up. In an ideal world we could just say to someone, “you’re doing wrong”, and they would cease. But I have very rarely seen that happen in real life. What I am proposing is to talk about it in a way that is more likely to get your spouse to understand your heart, and more likely to get your spouse involved in seeking a solution. And to me, that is more important than telling your spouse that he or she is wrong and you are right. If you’re not at the point where you can do that, and if you’re still too angry, then I’d suggest you work on your anger before you bring any of this up with your spouse.
Do you want MORE for your sex life?
The 31 Days to Great Sex Challenge was written to help you spice it up in the bedroom!
Try new things, explore each other, and turn on those fireworks!
3. If Your Spouse Isn’t Interested: Build Passion by Focusing on Intimacy in Other Ways
Intimacy should be the main focus of your conversation with your spouse, because as your spouse recognizes a deeper need for intimacy, he or she will likely recognize more of a need for sex.
But intimacy is deeper than just sex, and if you work on building intimacy in other areas of your life, you may very well also fuel your spouse’s desire for sex.
So work on your friendship. Spend time together. Develop hobbies together. Take an interest in what your spouse is doing. If your wife is overburdened with the house or with kids, start helping her more so she can relax. If your husband is overburdened with work, do what you can to help him. Help each other calm down, de-stress, and spend time together.
And then work on your spiritual intimacy. Our spiritual health is very related to our sexual health. When we feel close to God, we’ll simultaneously feel more like reaching out to our spouses. When I had dinner a while ago with Bill and Pam Farrel, of Men are Like Waffles, Women are Like Spaghetti fame, they told me that the couples with the best sex lives tend to be those in ministry. As you serve God and worship God more, you tend to reach out for your spouse more.
I have found that in my own life, too. When my husband and I read Psalms before we go to bed, or pray together before we go to bed, I’m always more ready to jump him! So work on developing spiritual disciplines together. Go to church together. Read the Bible together. If you’re uncomfortable praying out loud, get a book of prayers and read those (that really is allowed). In many ways, sex is a picture of our longing for God; our longing to be deeply connected and deeply known. As we open ourselves up to spiritual passion, we’re more likely to feel other kinds of passion.
As we open ourselves up to spiritual passion, we’re more likely to feel other kinds of passion.
Pursue intimacy in all areas of your life: physical, relational, and spiritual. And then talk to your spouse about how God wants you to live lives of passion and intimacy. That is His desire. If we as a couple aren’t experiencing that, we’re missing out on something beautiful. So do we want to live small lives, or big lives? And what can we do to work towards that big life?
Will framing the conversation like this work? No, not necessarily. You can never change another person; you can only change yourself. However, I do believe that this is the best option you have.
Great Sex Challenge
Pursue Intimacy. Pray and get rid of anger or bitterness in your heart towards your spouse. Pursue friendship and spiritual intimacy, with no strings attached. Then talk to your spouse about your desire for deeper intimacy, and about God’s plan for passion and intimacy. Ask what you can do as a couple to pursue that.
My new book, The Good Girl’s Guide to Great Sex, deals with how to boost your libido (if you’re a woman), how to pursue intimacy as a couple, and how to deal with a man who doesn’t want sex. It’s a must-read for women wanting more for sex in marriage!
Sheila Wray Gregoire has been married for 29 years and happily married for 24! She loves traveling around North America with her hubby in their RV, giving her signature "Girl Talk" about sex and marriage. And she's written 7 books. About sex and marriage. See a theme here? Plus she knits. Even in line at the grocery store.
Intimacy in all forms is such a precious gift. I hope your emails can help many couples find that in their marriage.
Thank you for doing a series on this. I know there are women who are dealing with this, and have probably felt alone. Thank you for giving them ideas of what they can do to help the overall feel of their marriages.
I’m posting as Anonymous today because I don’t want these details to be connected with my husband.
I hope to encourage some of you out there today. Although my husband didn’t have a complete lack of desire for sex the first many years of our marriage, he did have a lower sex drive than I and this was a huge battle for me. For many of those years he was on a cocktail mix of medicines for anxiety, depression and ADD. The latter of which I shoved him out the door to confirm his symptoms.
During that time I cried, fought, prayed, begged the Lord . . . and as many of you have probably discovered, this only pushed my husband away further. Nothing seemed to work. Eventually I came to the end of myself and realized I’d better surrender this to the Lord or it would swallow me up. The Lord spoke to me various ways. I remember a series from Focus on the Family then playing on the radio. I took in what I heard. I remember a discussion during this series on groveling. What the Lord showed me was that when I went to my husband, often times I would end up groveling. At times I was angry. But as many of you may relate, a woman will sometimes resort to crying and pleading and asking what she is doing wrong. Groveling. The definition of grovel was given over the radio. I encourage you to look it up. We, as humans, cannot respect anyone that grovels. It goes against the nature God put within us.
So what was I to do? I prayed and prayed some more and definitely pulled back on not just groveling but also discussion on the topic for a while. I wanted to hear what the Lord had to say. The lack of grovelling in itself helped but I knew there were still some issues.
LADIES, even if it seems there is no apparent reason–medication, porn addiction, etc–I can assure you that sometimes something underlying is likely going on. God did NOT create man to willingly withdraw from sex for no reason. Low testosterone is something I am sure is a huge problem often. GOD CAN STILL HEAL THIS!!! But first, seek Him. Ask Him to open YOUR eyes. Is not this the way He works with any other issue? He wants us to pour our needs, hurts and even anger to Him. HE can handle it. However, His principles and laws in His Word will always have us reflecting inwardly.
Let me fast forward my story a bit . . .
Eventually my husband decided to come off of most of the meds he was on and this was a tremendous answer to prayer. Some time later {maybe a few years} we had a blow up that ended up with an eye opening revelation for me. I had been disrespectful in so many ways. He had had enough. His actual all out SCREAM of this information hit me to the core of my being. I KNEW it was true. I excused it most of the time. Many times I would be “venting” to him and felt he took it personally but I also knew, KNEW that I had been consistently disrespectful in many ways with MY MOUTH.
It was an ugly truth that I needed to see. It took prayer and repentance and surrendering to the Lord but I knew I had to change this. We are to respect our men. SIMPLY PUT! I had done the complete opposite in many ways. Later, I would find that this affected him and his desire for sex. UNDERSTANDABLY. This truth came out after another eye opening realization coming in a second. And when it did, I could look back and see the truth of what he said. I could see how since that blow up and my desire to change, sex had gotten much better. Even in the early years when we had it, it was good most of the times but things were definitely better. Still, at times they were off.
Within the past year I have been made aware an addiction to porn that my husband had since basically {sadly} childhood. It’s amazing what praying for freedom can do! This has been tremendously difficult! At the same time, very freeing especially for him! It is a problem that is so rampant, the least likely of people have it. He had always prided himself on not ever walking through the doors of Hooters. He would not go places friends would go. I NEVER would’ve imagined he had this problem. While he was not among the men who will readily admit their desire and indulgence in this sin, he would willingly go behind closed doors. Smart phones feed this much!!!
And what is a crazy realization to this problem, is that they will want sex LESS. It can seem a little crazy in that you’d think it would feed them to want it more from their wives. However, they are getting their needs met via the addiction.
Since the discovery, his repentance and newfound freedom, things have changed dramatically. It has been a battle, of course. But it is nothing short of amazing the beauty God can and DOES bring through deliverance and restoration. And that includes your sex life.
Know that while I do not want to imply that your husbands are likely into porn in spite of the fact that it seems impossible to be true, I do pray that you will sincerely seek the Lord for Him to open, FIRST, your eyes.
How we treat our men matters!!! We are not given an out because of our own hurts. We are accountable for our responses and our own actions. My heart hurts for women who struggle in this area. I know what it’s like to feel unwanted, rejected, in despair. BUT, HE alone is the lifter of our heads. Find your strength, your peace, WHO you are in Him. Lift up your heads and don’t grovel. EVER. It is NOT effective. Ask God to bring freedom to your husbands in ALL areas. And trust Him to bring clarity. He is faithful.
If it’s nothing else but low testosterone, let’s pray together for God to heal this. He not only can but I believe He will!!!
Beautiful of you to share this. I am sure it will help many women!
Wonderful comment, and I think what you shared is that quite often there is a whole lot of factors. It isn’t just one. Your husband had low testosterone, an addiction to porn, and a wife who often put him down. I think that’s quite common, where it’s multifaceted. I’m so glad you listened when God spoke to you, and isn’t that wonderful that God also spoke to your husband and that you’re able to rebuild now!
Thank you so much !!!! I am really feeling boosted in Lord on seeing these posts!!!!
I would also like to share my situation as a prayer point.
We are married for the past 9 months…….My husband didn’t initiate sex on our first night…..it went on for 4 days….And on the second day of our honeymoon I asked him(by crying)…..why we aren’t having sex……he then initiated hurriedly(I wasn’t exceited and I felt that he was also not interested…..just as I asked he initiated)…….but he did not get his erections….next day also he didn’t get his erections……Then he didn’t initiate sex for nearly 3 months……
Then somehow I talked to him and took him to a doctor……The doctor just treated him for his erections……Now, if he takes medicine his erection is better(but when when he comes inside me it goes off)……but his sexual desire is still low……We tested for testosterone and it was low…..so the doctor injected a dose of testosterone…….but still he is having low sexual desire and Erectile dysfunction……He hasn’t ejaculated inside me even once…..
I am also not much excited when we try to have sex(I do not know whether it is a problem with me or him)…..so my vaginal fluid is secreted very less…..
But the things which I have noted in him was
1) He is much addicted to sports
2) He hasn’t masturbated for the past 10 years
3) He doesn’t has the habit of taking alcohol
4) He is not addicted to Porn
We are also praying and believing on God alone…..Kindly uphold us in your prayers. I am much stressed(but beliveing on God alone)…..no words to describe my situation…..I feel myself very unlucky……Please pray that we must have a happy and satisfied life together till our death……please pray for us……
Note : The E-mail ID which I had mentioned([email protected]) is an active one…..
Dear Sheila,
I have been married for 22 years and I am 58 and he is 61. For the last 10 yrs. we have no sex. About 10 he loves to watch TV then noticed he was watching a show on “cheating.” I asked him why is he watching that and he said it amused him on how they do things. Then he started watching porn on computer that I didn’t even know about………then his drinking started to increase. Now we are overseas and temptation is worse as you know “those Asian girls are easy!”
I caught him having an affair that he admitted to. Then I forgave him and now I caught him texting another girl and made a download on computer. I am concern because the phone and computer is under my name and I don’t want to get in any problems….We are both Christians but this problem is happening.
I recently confronted him and made him accountable and he gave me his passwords for computer, phone, and emails. He is always with me but what can I do to increase passion. I can’t force him and he told another Christian man here that he wanted to change. Please help. I need a book to read or enroll in a class for both of us. Also my husband can be a good actor!
Thanks for helping couples!
Hi Zulema,
That’s just awful. I’m so sorry. What he’s doing is so wrong, and so hurtful.
It sounds like you both really need counselling, and he needs to be in an accountability group. This is serious. He’s withdrawn from physical intimacy. Then he’s cheated and used porn. This is not right, and is symptomatic of deep problems. I’m not sure if you can get a counsellor where you are, but I advise you start there. And also read my book 9 Thoughts That Can Change Your Marriage. Thoughts 5-7 are all about dealing with difficult problems in marriage and how to make sure you’re not enabling sin, and they may really help you!
Thank you so much for your comment! I can relate on so many levels. I felt alone and like a freak going through this. I am working on myself and taking this all to God! Please be in prayer for and with me about this huge issue in my marriage!
this is something that my husband and i have struggled with for YEARS! my heart is bleeding to be noticed and desired. thank you THANK YOU for this post!!!!!! i need support from other women who are experiencing this same issue; i feel like im dying inside
I would give anything if my husband wanted me sexually! ANYTHING
Thank you so much for sharing!!! I can totally relate to your story… my husband and I went and are kinda still going through the same thing right now…unfortunately it wasn’t just porn, he also had an online affair with a married woman… it totally crushed me…But I have to say I believe all of this was revealed because i prayed and seeked God regarding my marriage and he brought out all of the hidden truths and lies out in the open…. I knew something wasn’t right but I just couldn’t put my finger on it… this all came out earlier this year after we went to the XO Conference with Jimmy and Karen Evans…. in Dallas TX…we were doing so bad, possibly on the verge of divorce and I almost didn’t even attempt to ask him if he would want to go.. when I asked him I couldn’t believe he Said yes, he would go…oh and my husband was not a believer at this time either…First day at the event he looked so uncomfortable and looked like he didn’t even want to be there… but by the end of the Event, he said it was a great event and that he would go back next year, and so we are already booked to go back in Feb 2017… God has done so much and is still doing a work in our marriage.. my husband now goes to church with me and he went to the altar accepted the Lord a few weeks ago… I’m still struggling with wanting more sex than him but, I know God has a work to do in me… and we will get thru this… I pray for all the wives that feel lonely, afraid and hopeless.. as long as you pray and ask God to fight this battle for you, and ask him to give you the wisdom you need to get through this, everything will eventually turn out good… it won’t be easy, but it will get better with him in your life…Praise him for the good and bad… it’s all Gods will and he always know what’s best for us…
Thank you for your honesty but I really must disagree with some things.
It turned out that porn, yet again was the problem here. It was not your grovelling or your being disrespectful at all. I’m willing to bet the problem had already started when you began those behaviours and my heart goes out to you, more than you can imagine.
This man used porn, he was cheating on you regularly.
You felt a lack of sex and so you got angry, this would lead to you being disrespectful. Then when that didnt work, you, desperate for love, would grovel. And the cycle of anger and begging began.
Instead of admitting to being the perpetrator, your husband manipulated you into believing that the problem was partly YOUR fault, when it was simply his weakness and duplicity that led to him cheating on you, satisfying his own needs and not caring a jot about you OR God. But he used your faith in God to make you feel like you were at fault too, that somehow, your disrespect led to him cheating on you with probably thousands of different women, because every time he looked at someone lustfully he was cheating on you and cheating on God.
And now he’s been let off the hook with you taking 50 per cent of the blame, it makes me feel so sad for you, so sad for every woman who is a victim of her husbands porn addiction and his cheating, whether with real people or otherwise, it’s the same thing. He’s orgasming with someone else.
I know because I’m going through this currently and its torn our family apart. For years I let him blame me, it’s all my fault, I am angry, I am too suspicious blah blah blah – they never take full blame and they completely play down the hurt and pain they’ve put you through.
I wish I could leave, but I have three children who need a father. I often try to tell myself that this angry, self satisfying man is a terrible role model for them, so that I can leave but deep in my heart I know that God intended my marriage to last.
I do worry about the effect of his anger and moods on my children, I worry that my son will be like him and that my 2 young daughters will think its acceptable to have a man who speaks to you like you are trash, most of the time.
So I keep on going through life knowing that my husband will keep relapsing, despite the promises. He will keep telling me lies, saying that he *doesn’t* check out every woman who passes (I see it, no matter how much he tries to hide it – it causes me so much pain I could almost collapse on the floor, every new time is like a new blade to the heart), lie after lie after lie. No I don’t use porn any more, no I never masturbate alone (despite us going 4 weeks without sex) accompanied by the classic “Why, dont you believe me??” – a common trick designed to make us think about how terrible we are to not trust this honorable and decent soul – used regularly by cheating men. No I never check out women – usually accompanied by the “You are crazy!!” or the “it’s all in your mind” line, I think half of these porn addicted men genuinely believe they dont look at other women, despite the evidence to the contrary and the fact that we SEE them doing it, time after time. I think they also believe that their behaviour is normal and that *all* men do it.
I wish I never met him, I’m desperate to leave and meet a man who will love me like I deserve as a good and faithful wife.
But more than anything I’m so frustrated that we as betrayed and cheated on women, make excuses for their disgusting behaviour. We let them put at least half the blame on us, which is tragic.
We’ve suffered with this dreadful cheating man in our lives and now, our precious belief is being used against us to make us look like nagging witches and to force some of the blame for their cheating, onto US.
Hi mom of 3,
I’m so sorry you’ve gone through the things you have with your husband. As someone who has gone through a husband with a porn and Alex addiction, I can relate to your feelings. But I wanted to offer a bit of hope. Even when people sin radically against us, it is not “taking the blame” for their sin to also own up to ours. All of us have sinned, none of us are righteous. I encourage to seek your life and hope from Christ first, and then ask Him to help you set boundaries around your marriage. Perhaps your husband will will choose to leave if you do, but it is perfectly right to say that as his wife, you need his commitment to pursue counseling and or accountability, rather than just resigning yourself to bitterness. The good news is Christ has provided the power to do what Is right and will honor him.
Sheila,
Thanks for tackling a difficult topic! All too often it is taboo to discuss such intimate issues/struggles that Christian men/women are having within their marriage. You are making an impact for the Lord as a result. Keep up the good work!
Blessings,
~jolene engle
Sheila,
I agree completely with you about focusing first and foremost on intimacy. What’s more, I have never known any spouse to get more sex by dragging out 1 Cor 7.
That said (and I know you know this) some men and women are fine with any and all intimacy as long as there is no sex. When that happens, one is forced to deal with sex directly.
Waiting for your next post! 😉
So true, Paul! So when you talk about intimacy, you must say that God’s design for intimacy is that it is also expressed in sex. Excellent point.
But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you.
Matt 6:33
Shelia, I’m loving the post especially as a woman who wants it more. At least right now… In our marriage it has gone back and forth at times.. But, I may be jumping the gun on you but I think you are missing one point. We need to seek God above all else! Including intamcy with our husbands. If your husband will seek God with you all the better. But some of us have husbands that have fallen away from the Lord, in that situation you have to seek God on your own… The amazing thing is God does answer prayer. When you take the focus off how hurt you are by the rejection and truly give it to God and seek him first and foremost, things happen in other areas of your life. Your relationship with God is a barometer for all other relationships you have. Especially, your spouse. If your relationship with your spouse isn’t going good and isn’t getting better you need to look to God and see how that relationship is. Truly seek God with all your heart. God will as the other lady said open your eyes to the truth! Only God can bring about change in your spouse you can do nothing but pray for them and control how you behave. Seeking God wil give you peace beyond understanding (phil 4:7) that will enable you to serve your spouse despite the hurt.
Jenny, I do totally agree with you. Sometimes, actually, this is one of the beautiful things that come out of a lonely marriage–you learn how to rely on God. And you CAN’T change a spouse.
Nevertheless, I do think that if there is a legitimate issue in a marriage you need to be able to talk about it. Yes, we should take it to God, and yes, we should find our peace in God. But I also think it’s good to try to build a fabulous relationship, the kind that God wants. And that often includes confronting your spouse on something that is wrong in the relationship.
So thank you for adding that perspective! But I also just do want to say that if you are walking through this with your spouse, it is perfectly okay to talk about it with your spouse!
The woman you quoted at the beginning said she wished her husband needed sex in the same way she does. Well, I have to say, as a spouse who simply doesn’t need sex in the same way my husband does – I have, in fact, often said that I’d have made a good nun if I were Catholic! – that the wish is normal, as long as that does not become a demand. Whether it’s a husband or wife, if the personal need is not there, it’s just not there – and there may be nothing wrong (physically or emotionally) with that person at all. It could just be how that person is wired, and it would be extremely unfair and unloving (not to mention completely unrealistic) to demand the spouse try to change his/her needs. Which doesn’t mean they shouldn’t also work to meet the needs of the spouse who wants/needs more sex – though there is a balance, as you have said several times over the past month. In fact, if a person’s personal need for sex is not very high but they do their best to meet their spouse’s needs despite that, the efforts should be appreciated, not diminished. I would even go so far as to say that a person who doesn’t have much need for sex but who does their best – even if it’s not “perfect” according to the more “needy” spouse – is very loving indeed because we’re really going out of our own comfort zone on a regular basis for our spouse. It’s really tiresome to continuously hear that those of us who are simply wired differently are somehow wrong or sick…and that we need to try to force ourselves to be what we are not. If we still – out of love – do our best by our spouse’s even when it’s not about ourselves, that should be applauded, not demeaned.
I would agree, Tina. I think what the woman was expressing was that she wished that her spouse experienced real intimacy during sex, and that’s what I’m hoping to stir up here and in the 29 day series. I know some people will never have the same physical drive, and it’s a rare couple indeed who are totally compatible on that level. But I do think that God made us to experience love and intimacy during sex, and that’s what I think many spouses really yearn for. I’ve had people say to me, “I could live without the freqency, but I just want to have it be something that brings us closer together.” I think if you really love your spouse, and you’re doing your best to “step out of your comfort zone” and make love, that’s wonderful, and that’s part of expressing love for someone. My prayer would be that one day those spouses who do have the lower sex drive would also be able to EXPERIENCE sex as love, and not just express it as love, if that makes any sense, because that’s such a tremendous thing. And that’s really the best gift that God gave us.
But I absolutely agree that if you are doing your best to show love to your spouse, that is a good thing. And I absolutely commend you for it. Your heart is definitely in the right place!
Ladies, please try to understand that the procedure of sex is completely different between men and women.
Men seek to enjoy the sex process itelf and having maximum freedom without any pressure of being judged. While women seek to enjoy being wanted during the relationship.
And I think that’s the main misunderstanding, women desperately try to make their men seek sex through attraction or so!!!.
If man feels that you are taking him through a journey where he is free from EVERYTHING, and you will give him an orgasm, he will definitely seek you every now and then , and he will make you feel “Wanted”, but words like “do u want me?” “I’m I attracting u?” will always give a feel of “obligation” and he has to say “yes”!!.
My husband never had any interest in me or sex. I’ve been such a fool living with this horrible person for 45 years. But I do believe in death do us part of our wedding vows. We only had sex,intimacy, togetherness once in all these years. He decided that sex and intimacy were meaningless, he disliked it thought it really a waste of time, was disgusting and totally messy. So he said there will be no sex, love, sleeping together wasn’t in the cards. He move to the basement and built a kitchen, bedroom thing down there away from me. I was told never to bother him except when something is broke or needs replacing. Leave a POST IT on the wall. He lives like a hermit, no phone,TV, radio, dresses like a slob, no haircut just plain unkept. I thought he might be gay but no he goes only where its necessary for him to go. Plus I’ve hired people to follow him and nothing has been found. Its been my own fault for staying with him, the heart ache and depression, lonelyness is terrible. I wish I could find some one with a willing shoulder I could cry on. I have accepted my life for what it is.
Amy, I’m so sorry for your situation. It sounds like your husband has completely checked out of the relationship, and based on other comments, did so on his wedding night. I hope that you can find a good church where you can tell people what you’re going through and get their support, because God never meant for you to live alone like this. I pray that you can find some peace in God, and some good friends and some help after all these years.
I should also say that it sounds like your husband has already separated from you, and did so long ago. He chose to live completely separately, and to not communicate. I understand that you believe in til death do us part, but I think your husband has already left. It would be good for you to find a mentor couple who knows you in real life to talk to about this and to discuss what the proper options and actions are now.
Have you considered developmental disorders. Aspergers? This sounds so out of the range of normal. I am married to someone who has this and some behaviors have left me standing in a state of shock. This is a form of Autisum. Just a suggestion to think outside normal. Although this happens in marriages this sounds extreme and that alerts me to something outside of normal. It has taken us 10 years to peel back symptoms to find a diagnosis that explains the journey we hav e been on.
i pray to God you have left this man! sometimes divorce is the only way; you DONT deserve to be treated like this!!!
I too am in a similar situation. My husband is a diabetic and has been since 2002. His health has gradually gotten worse because he doesn’t take care of himself. He takes his medicine but doesn’t watch what he eats. Things also got even worse when they put him on Metformin. I feel like he went through a bad bit of depression, but wouldn’t admit it. We had a rough summer of me doing “stupid” things that aggrevated him and since then he has “checked out” emotionally, spiritually and physically. I’ve been crying out to the Lord, hard since October of last year. He has fallen away from the Lord and says that he is closer to Him than ever. He was always an affectionate man. He would hold my hand, look at me lovingly, play with my hair, touch my body to let me know that he wanted me. That has now ALL stopped. Back in the fall I started gently asking him questions and his answer was “I don’t know”. He is distant, non affectionate and seems to not care what happens to me. The Lord has shown me little glimpses of hope, but this hurts so bad and I’m so lonely that I have thoughts of finding someone to just hold me. I’m trying to be strong and not come across as needy and pothetic, but it is so hard. I’ve started counseling and am thinking about antidepressants because I feel like I’m in mourning over our relationship. I was always taught that if a husband and wife are close to the Lord…then they will grow closer together., but he has no interest in doing that. He did a study with me in Aug and Sept. and said he was disappointed because I seemed to get nothing out of it. I tried to help him understand that I have ADD issues and some parts of it didn’t sink in, but that seemed to make him more disgusted. He told me “I give up”, “I’m done”. Our marriage was never perfect, but I know we loved each other and we use to have a great physical and affectionate marriage and now that is all gone. He has had problems with porn in the past and made a covenant with me and God years ago to stay away from that, but I fear that it’s back. I don’t know what to do but WAIT…my Psalm that I’m living by right now is Psalm 40…waiting for the Lord to bring me out of the ‘horrible pit”, out of the “miry clay” and “set my feet upon a rock”. But it is so hard to wait and I want my marriage partner back.
When I was “working in the church” it was sad how many who came to me with these struggles. Even now I still know couples who struggle! I even know couples at least married 6-13 years no sex at all! Your post was very well written! I loved it. I have it marked and will reference it next time approach. Most know I’m am not shy talking about sex-so many come to me. (you do better though!:)) God’s gave us this gift-the world is tearing it apart! Someone has got to talk about it the way it was intended for!:).
some very wise advice, especially about opening our own eyes as women. interestingly some women in the world are more savvy when it comes to things like this, many of them see how hardness in their character and personalities can turn a man off sexually. totally. So the message is, in a word: soften. Women need to be, well yes, penetrable, and if we have a hard shell and hard core which comes our mouths it is like throwing a bucket of iced water over him, no wonder then men might find it hard to get turned on sexually when their spouse is hardened toward them.
” If you talk about your sexual needs, chances are this is what your spouse will hear:
“I have sexual needs because I have never really developed self-control the way you have. I am a slave to my body, unlike you, who is able to focus on the important things in life. And now, because of my desire and lack of self-control, I want you, who are already busy, to get energetic and to pretend that you actually want sex so that I can get some release.” ”
While that may be the case for SOME couples, to say it is the case for all couples in this situation is short sighted.
It assumes that the spouse wanting sex is only saying they have sexual needs for physical needs – it ignores the couple where they know that the spouse saying it because of a need for their relationship to deepen and this can’t be done when one person constantly rejects the other.
And more importantly, it bizarrely assumes that the spouse rejecting sex considers themselves to be focussed on important things (or is busy). I know several lovely, heartbroken women who are facing this situation.
It has nothing to do with physical release on their side of things – they just want to bond with their husbands. Their husbands KNOW they are not busy and especially know they are NOT focussed on important things.
For example, two of them have husbands who are addicted to World of Warcraft and another has a husband who is addicted to going to the gym. It is their husbands who have no self control (and two out of three acknowledge this), it is their husbands who are not focussed on the important things in life, and is their husbands who have no legitimate “busyness” – other than part time work and their addiction, they have no life, while their poor wives are working, taking care of the household, two of the three have kids (it only takes once to get pregnant) and are doing 100% of the childrearing.
Yet despite the fact that it’s the woman who is totally exhausted from true busyness – financially supporting the family, doing all the housework, raising the kids etc – they still want to spend a little bit of time occasionally being intimate with their husbands because they know it will improve the bond between them – for their husband’s sake more than their own.
It is their husband’s who have no self control – they are out pleasuring themself constantly with computer games and working out and give no thought at all to having any self control over their pleasure seeking activities. It is their husbands who are not the slightest bit busy apart from their self pleasuring activities.
These are men who don’t want sex because they are getting their pleasure elsewhere. It may not be sexual pleasure, but it is self pleasure none the less.
So how on earth do you deal with men like that? Telling them “I desire you. I find you so attractive. You excite me. I want us to experience this together. I want to feel loved.” means nothing to them. You can tell it to them a thousand times. It doesn’t get them off their computer games.
Butterfly Wings, you’re right, increasingly this is a huge problem in marriage. I’m actually starting a series in January when I’m going to talk about all of these issues: video games, television, a lack of discipline, a lack of regular sleep, a lack of “adult” behaviour. And how can we reclaim that? How can we reclaim family time and couple time when we have video games issues or we stay up until 3:00 on the computer?
So I don’t have a quick answer, but I will be expanding on all of these issues soon.
I’m going to book mark this. And read it un till i get it right. I need intimacy not sex. You opened my eyes.
I am a guy and I need to make a comment here. First of all NEVER tell some one or pressure someone to go off their ADD or othe meds…it’s not your choice or life it’s his. The commen made earlier abou how anonymous made her hub go off all his meds..wow…selfish! Secondly, maybe the fact is that a man likes to feel sexually powerful and in control but he also wants to be respected. When my wife is rude or disrespecfiul to me I def don’t feel sexually attracts to her. There is all on here about how to approach your man and “change him” classic female mistake but maybe you need to look at yourselves first, the only person you can change is yourself ladies.
Totally agree it’s dangerous, reckless and selfish to demand any person go off psychotropic medication. This is a decision to be made with a doctor and should be done only under a doctor’s care. Taking some off psych meds , including ADHD meds,without monitoring by a doctor can lead to horrific consequences.
Awesome series of posts!!! I’ve been looking for answers regarding my husbands decreased sexual drive. My search yielded results for how to dress sexier, tricks to try in bed or worst of all, concluded that he was cheating. I was so thankful when I found this site. My husband is a good man and father. I know he’s been under more stress recently and I can now see how I may have compounded the issue. I look forward to putting into practice some of the suggestions and hopefully getting a positive response.
That’s wonderful! So glad you found it helpful.
I stumbled across this post and I have to say I am so in the same boat. My husband and I have been married almost 14 yrs and the last few have gotten worse. We started out making love every day. Then it diminished after maybe the 5th year. After that it was in spurts. But that was because we had financial difficulties and he was stressed…..which is what I thought. We have a great relationship over all else. We have 2 children and our lives are surrounded by our family time, but when the kids go to sleep, how I long and wish for intimacy. I’ve had several talks with him about this. He’d give me an excuse why. He’s either stressed or tired or he doesn’t want to wake me because I’m tired….etc. I am in tears and have fell at a weak moment a couple years ago. I have since repented but never told anyone but the Lord. But again…I ask my husband what’s wrong…he says.. nothing is wrong. I want him but I can’t lie, lately I kind of don’t because I know if we do it, it’s because he’s doing it out of his “duty”. I had a hysterectomy in April, have been cleared by my Dr. For 2 weeks still nothing… we haven’t made love since February or March sometime. I touch him but he doesn’t “bite it” so to speak. He’s talked to the Dr and urologist, nothing. Not only am I hurt to my guts sometimes but yes I totally feel intimately lonely and starved. I even think sometimes something is wrong with ME mentally. But I feel robbed of all my 20s and almost my 30s!!!
This is for more advice. Around 2003 my husband started to become lazy in our sexual life. It was like he was forcing himself to be intimate . I would not say anything but cry after the 5 minute of sex. Very so after he stopped. At that time his Crohn’s disease was really acting up. 2005 he had a small part of his large, and small intestine removed. They did remove his entire Ileium. So he must take B12 injections every week the rest of his life. This is when things between us really chained. He was gaining weight, excercizing and for the first time in his life was able to gain muscle mass. He look great. Then I had a gut feeling, his behavior changed, routines changed, everything changed. Plus his angry was through the roof. Well he had been having an affair with a married woman at work. I found out by going through his e-mail. He was very angry with me with what I said to the woman. When he arrived home from work. He insisted that I call her to apologies to her. Every since he will not touch me. It’s been 8 yrs. I was the aggressor to be intimate with him. I know he did not enjoy. I still try but always refuses. He says all the I love you stuff but no nothing going on in bedroom . I’m hurt, I have so many feelings going on and want to hear from his lips the reason why he will not touch me. I’m wanting a divorce more and more. I want to be loved not be his mother. In the begginging we had a wonderful marriage. Can so one tell me why this is happening….. Eileen
I am the one withholding sex from my husband. Years ago, I was 7 months pregnant with our son and we were living together, yet not married. I caught him cheating on me. We got married 5 months later had since moved on from his indiscretion and just recently had our 3rd child. Right before I went back to work from maternity leave, in confessed to be that 8 years ago, only 6 months after we got married, he cheated on me again with a different (married) woman. This time the planned it so they wouldn’t get caught and I have never suspected. I want to trust him again. I want to be intimate with him again. I miss him! How do I move pass this? I have only had sex with my husband and he has had many partners. I do I accept all of this and get our relationship back? I am desperate. I love him so much, but I don’t feel connected anymore.
Corey, I’m so sorry! That’s so difficult to take. Can you guys talk to a third party, like a counselor, to help see you through this? That can be so helpful in a situation like this.
I do see something hopeful in your letter: he confessed, which often means that he’s trying to build greater intimacy and he wants to be closer to you. I hope that you can work through this with him, but I think getting a counselor or talking to a pastor is a really good next step.
I just got married in April 2014 and my husband has already lost his desire for sex.. We go quite sometime without sex and it tears me up inside.. I’m constant asking why he married me if he’s not physically attracted to me.. I don’t seem to do anything for him anymore…This makes me really sad and frustrated and wondering why he is not attracted to me anymore or if he really ever was.. I know I need to pray but instead I project my anger towards him… He is always telling me he’s still attracted to me and loves me even more than the day we met.. He tells me to pray everyday to God that hell help us get through these struggles and that he will help him to be less tired and that things get better for us.. I know that’s what I should and need to do but I just break down and get so angry at God and myself, and my husband. I want things to change and that’s why I know I need to rely on God to help things get better…….
I am 32 years old. I have been with my husband for 13 years. I feel as though I have always initiated any kind of sexual interaction with my husband but lately things have taken a frustrating turn. I can’t even look him in the eyes anymore. He comes home from work and immediately retreats to the bedroom to watch tv. After reading the posts above, I realized I was groveling with him for the past year. It makes me feel pathetic. There seems to be no interest whatsoever. We have had a lot of financial troubles in the past several weeks but I really think he is not in love with me anymore.I am too embarrassed to talk to anymore even though I feel like my heart is broken. I have 2 young children and worry what will happen next. I have tried to confront him, he says “its me, not you” but I think thats just an excuse. I honestly just needed to get this off of my chest. These posts have made me feel like I am not the only one who’s world is turned upside down. I am not a very religious person but I have been praying for to God for strength.
The exact words that I want to tell to my husband I found in here..Thanks shiela. I have the same story as like you guys. I am 37 years old my husband is 55 an been married for almost 10 years. During our honeymoon, no sex happened to us until after 3 years and that’s the time we involved in sex. He said he has no erections. I am attractive person and he said that also. Make the short story short . I encourage him to see a doctor and he did after of many times I am pushing him to go. And had many arguments and turned into fights. He went. The doctor prescribed him a medicine. We had our sex, though I am not that satisfied cause it is to quick and he’s done. But I did not say anything not to discourage him. But we have sex only after many months and then I have to asked him if he wants to have sex..he did not say no but asking me is it we can do it in your next day off. I feel like why my husband seems not interested on me? I feel that i have my needs now and you ask me to do it in next time. But i tried to understand him but it was keep repeating stories. He wanted to have sex because of my needs not because he feel that we need it in our marriage. It turns me into disappointment. I feel bitter and easy to get annoyed and get mad at him because i feel that I have no much value. I ended up sometimes to divorce him. But i don’t believe in divorce because sex problem. Until feel i ignore him and show that i am not interested anymore in our marriage. But every time i think about it i am hurt and angry towards him. Seems our marriage never grow and no intimacy..I am longing to have an intimate to my husband not only in sex but i am wishing that he will cuddle each other and just talk even to sex. I am good with that. But the problem is i don’t know how to say it with no anger in my voice. It is the reason also my husband doesn’t want to talk to me cause he said i am easily get upset and very sensitive. I agree cause I am in sensitive situation and he i feel that he don’t even see it.
I am glad that the words that i am looking for , I found in your blog… I am thinking to share it to my husband. Maybe it helps in our relationship. Actualy it really enlightens me that I have lots of mistakes also why my husband seems not interested to have intimacy with me. By Gods grace. I am willing to give a try to follow and start a new years of marriage again. If he doesn’t like to start I will start!
LOve this: Perfect words for me to say to my husband:
I really believe that God created us to long for each other and to be able to experience major depths of love and intimacy. I believe that God wants us to feel passionate about each other, close to each other, and truly intimate, so that we know that we’re not walking through life alone. I want us to feel so madly in love, and I want you to feel how much I love you. I want us to feel like we’re totally one, and I believe that the way that God made us to express that is through sex.
I know sex can be difficult for you, and I know you’re tired a lot of the time. I know you feel like you don’t have a lot of desire. But I’m worried that our lack of intimacy is actually partly the cause of some of that exhaustion. If we could really feel passion and really feel as if we were truly connected, perhaps much of the angst that we have both been feeling lately would evaporate.
I think God wants you to live such a big life. God wants you to enjoy everything that He created you for, and I think that we’re robbing each other of the gift of passion that God put in us. Do you think that we could try to rediscover passion together? I know it’s not easy, because you feel like you don’t have a sex drive. But it’s not just about sex; it’s about feeling so close to each other. That’s what I really want. Can we talk about how we can feel that intimacy, that passion, that closeness? And how we can make it easier for you to feel it? Because that’s what I think our marriage needs.
Thank you thank you….
I am just now seeing this blog. I have been needing this for a while. My husband and I have been married for 15 years and have 4 children. We have sex on average about once a month. Sometimes we go longer. He says he has a low libido, but I know that he will masturbate in the shower on a more regular basis. I have expressed my thoughts about maybe that’s why he doesn’t want sex, but he assures me that masturbating feels different and has nothing to do with him not desiring sex. I disagree. I feel like if he would not masturbate, then the desire would build up and he would want ME to fulfill his needs and not himself. How do I explain my feelings about this without causing a fight?
Becky, I completely agree that this is related, and I’ve written about masturbation and marriage here. I hope that helps! It is a serious thing that is really harming your intimacy.
There have been many times that I felt like I was the only wife having this problem with her husband. I am not happy that there are other women facing this because I know how hurtful this can be and I wouldn’t want anyone else to feel this way. Sometimes its hard to read the articles on the different marriage websites i go to because we are so different then everyone else and I feel like there must be something really wrong with me. My husband and I have always had an active sex life until this past year. It started off slowly becoming loner and longer in between times until this past 6 months and now its only occasionally, maybe once a month or every 6 weeks. And from everything I’ve read i sounds like its Low T, which is a pretty easy diagnosis and fix with some medicine. So why hasnt he taken care of it. Its not a big deal and wont take alot of time or money to find out. If this situation were reversed I would never just ignore the problem and just expect him to deal with it. I havent really told him how much this is bothering me, or how important it is to me that we get this fixed or how desperate I am to feel desired by him. I am so afraid that when I try to tell him these things that it will come out wrong and I will end up making him feel bad and I dont want that.
Shawn, while I don’t understand it myself, my husband sounds very similar to yours. I did speak up and his response was to say that saying he had low testosterone was an “insult to his manhood”. I tried putting it to him that it’s no different from me having an underactive thyroid – it’s just a hormone, it’s a medical problem not a character deficiency or anything like that. But whatever reason, that I just don’t understand, it seems like a lot of men are sensitive about anything related to sexuality. Or maybe it’s just medical stuff in general – I know I’m big on getting medical issues fixed asap, while the majority of men seem to bury their head in the sand until things have got so bad they can’t be ignored anymore. Sadly I see this a lot in my work (I’m a nurse). Women generally have no hang ups about getting medical help, but men generally seem to take asking for medical help as some kind of character “weakness”. Maybe it’s the way society has brought up men and women, but to me, it just seems silly – it’s not weakness to ask for help, nor is it tough to not ask for help when needed.
All I can think of is to suggest bringing it up with your hubby and pointing out to him that it’s not a sexual issue, it’s a medical issue, and if that doesn’t work, get a man he respects to talk to him about how it’s not masculine to be too stubborn to ask for medical help.
My husband has no desire for sex. We have children, our youngest is over a year and we have not had sex since he was born. Before that we hadn’t had it since he was conceived. This has been a problem in our marriage ever since the beginning. We’ve been married over 10 years. I truly think we’ve had sex less than 65 times in all those years. We have been to counseling- for years: marriage & sex therapy. Nothing changes. He refuses to take care of his oral hygiene, and I cannot remember the last time we kissed.
It is horrible. I used to cry about it, but now I don’t anymore. I do resent him, have worked on acceptance, etc. in counseling, but the fact is it is horribleto be in a sexless marriage. There are only two reasons I haven’t left him: my children, and I made a commitment to God when we married.
I know things will not change- because we have talked it to death already with counsellors, etc. there is nothing I can do differently- I’ve tried it all. Literally: sex therapy, testosterone, acting sweet, being nice, sexy clothes the whole gambit. It is exhausting to think about everything we have tried. I guess I’m just at the point where this is it. I don’t have a sex life, and I am stuck in a relationship with my husband, that will not change.
Gotta tell you, it really stinks.
It seems I’m in the minority here. A man whose wife is sexless. Every time we do have sex, which is 6 to 8 times a year, it’s mechanical and boring. She has zero interest in trying to do anything to please me, and if I say or do ANYTHING that has even the slightest hint of sexuality behind it, I’m “sick” and “pornographic”. Then, she has the audacity to blame me for our sexlessness. I played the game for a few years, now I quit. I’m seriously seeking a way out. I want a divorce so bad but I know it’s not gods will. I’m hurting in great and relentless pain. And she finds a way to blame me. I made the mistake of trying to communicate what I needed a few times and she finds a way to shift it to my fault. Whenever we do have sex, I feel like I would get far more response from a dead monkey than her. It’s been so long now and I’ve been brow beaten so many times that I actually believe that it’s all my fault. I keep seeking the whys and what can I do’s only to find that there is NOTHING.
Frustrated
He doesn’t like me; he supposedly “loves me”. We haven’t had sex in more than 2 years. He always had God; now, God help me, he has found a church and a therapist. Everything is my fault. I am “mean to him”. He went home to his parents the day after our wedding. I am supposed to forget this and focus on how he has “tried to be a good husband and father”. That was almost 35 years ago. I am unable to get past the fact that he preferred his parents to me. If I had the money, I
would divorce him on an instant. I am beginning to despise him.
I am married since on year and we didnt have sex for one week after our marriage after that till now overall it was 3 times that we had sex . Am tired of that he has ED and he refuses taking medecine he s a porn addict and he doesnt care . I feel the nights are long and cold .. so freezing in my bad now 6 months he didnt touch me .. its so hard it really breaks my heart in two .. and i donno for how long i can be strong .. we always fight for the smallest things i feel like leaving and he s always stressed and he doesnt listen. I suggested that we go for therapy but he refuses any kind of help .. sometimes i feel like he s not aware how much this is affecting me from inside .. i really donno how to convince him or even how to handl a conversation .. i can not accept it and i dont think ill stand this situation for long .. i wish i can change sth coz i really love my husband
This all doesn’t work. I loved him so much and got married. Later realized the truth about his past. I am 9 1/2 years younger to me. Married just one and half years ago. In his past, he had been into many relationships unmarried and had sex with his partners. Before marriage he just spoke honey quoted words, kisses, dating etc. but after marriage he is totally an opposite person.
He doesn’t have interest to talk to me. He doesn’t even bother to ask me. It is almost more than 8 months we don’t have sex at all. If I have an urge and I approach him also, he just ignores it or sleeps. I am fed up. I am a doctor myself, but these things had made me aloof (hormonal issues).
I am not sure of the reasons. Is he still in touch with any other ladies, that is why he avoids me? or he has over enjoyed his life that he doesn’t need sex anymore? The loss is for me. I had never dated someone before marriage and he was the first. His pretending behavior took me in air, but now i am made fooled.
What to do to reduce my sex drive. I am just 28 years. How to divert myself? Sometimes I feel like moving away from him, as there is no love between us. He doesn’t spends time with me. He goes out, comes, watches TV, facebook, mobile, eat and sleep. Morning wake up watch facebook, whatsapp, get ready and leave the house. This is what is happening. If i intervene and try to speak, it ends in fight.
Hi – I feel your pain missy – I read a lot on this issue when I found out that my husband is looking at pictures of naked women – girls , chubby girls, Cougars -milfs, just random pics of women – not so much about men screwing women …. I have caught him at least once a year since we have been married 4 years – so once a year – at first he denies it and then got angry I looked at his phone and then recently he said he did look and it was stupid to do and he is so sorry – which is the first time he ever apologied for any of it. I told him I felt betrayed -sick to my stomach – I can’t look at him – he said he has a problem and will get help … I want to ask when he plans On getting help but don’t want to get in a fight over it – I want to scream and cry and kick him out … What to do is the issue – it’s a hard topic to discuss.
I have been married for over 35 years. My husband always had a high apatite for sex and I was the one who could do without because of a bad experience. I always felt loved and desired by my husband and as the years went by we were on the same page I relaxed and truly enjoyed sex with my husband for many years. Well about seven years ago at the age of 47 things changed not sure why, premenopause, stress, feeling unattractive , even anger. I felt that other men were attracted to me but not my husband. I sometimes wondered if he forgot I was even a female. We rarely make love now maybe quarterly, but I feel angry and very lonely and even depressed. I want him to want me again but he will not notice me, he does compliment, you look pretty, or pretty dress before I leave for work but I want passion, I want him to desire me again and it’s not in him. I have a hard time initiating sex because I always feel like he does it out of duty a husbands duty. I feel completely empty when this happens. I do pray for our marriage always, but My sweet Jesus is probably speaking to me and I just don’t hear him. I just lost both my parents and I feel like I need him so much and I am totally alone in this dark hole. I love my husband very much and wish we could find intimacy again. Please keep me in prayers.
I’ve been married to a great guy for 45 yrs. we love each other very much. I’m 71 and my husband is78. We are both burned again Christians . We both have health issues by my husbands are worse . He has had a lot of heart problems and takes a lot of mess. Which of course has caused ED. That troubled me for awhile ,but with Gods help,I we worked through it, and learned how we could be intimate without intercourse . Which turned out to be wonderful . But resently my husband became Ill again with bronchitis and was hospitalize 5 days. It was very bad, and he still has problem with his breathing . And with his heart problems and over weight too. He feels he just cannot have any sex at all. When he gets excited, he can’t breath and it scares him , so he no longer has any desire for sex at all . I’ m 71 ,I have rheumatoid arthritis and copd , diabetes. But I still am very sexually active , I love my husband very much and I LOVE being intimate with him, it brakes my heart that he really can’t be with me ,because of his condition, I understand that, I know he can’t help it. And I feel guilty for being so upset inside about it.i feel like I’m being selfish, I certainly would not want to do anything that would harm him . If I lost him over it ,I would never forgive myself . But I still desire him , how can I learn to live without him . Please help me to know what to do. I know I need to pray a lot, I know prayer works but I have such a need to talk to someone else , and I have no one that I can talk to about . At my age all of my dear friends that I feel I could have confine in have past on. Please give me some advise to help me. Sharon
It’s very interesting (and maybe a little saddening) to read all these comments from women who crave attention and intimacy from their husbands. I’m in the opposite situation. I desperately want to lavish affection on my wife, but she has zero interest. I’ll share my story, since I found many of yours helpful and interesting.
I’m 41 and she’s 40. We married at age 25, after dating continuously since high school. We have 2 wonderful kids (7 and 5) and I feel greatly blessed in most every aspect of my life…I’ve held a solidly great (but stressful) job for 15 years and have invested wisely. I wouldn’t say we’re rich, but certainly secure and that has allowed my wife to stay home (her choice) with the kids. We have a nice, cozy house (free and clear) in a lovely neighborhood.
My wife is beautiful. She was easily the best looking girl in high school and has aged well. I probably haven’t aged quite as well (few have!), but I’ve always lifted weights, eaten well, and am fit and strong.
I deeply love my wife and have my whole adult life. We’re best friends. I admire her in so many ways. But, we are pretty much opposites when it comes to physical intimacy…I have an extremely high libido and strong instincts toward physical affection, more generally. My wife could (and has) gone months without sex…she could (and has) gone weeks without even kissing me. The oddest, and maybe must hurtful part for me, is that she was extremely affectionate when we were dating. But, literally the day we got married, that all ended. Abruptly. And, I’ve never quite known what to make of that. It felt like a cruel joke…after all, she was the one that desperately wanted to get married!
But, we didn’t consummate our marriage our wedding night – she was too tired from the wedding day (which she loved). I was a poor graduate student at the time, but I scrimped and saved for a 3 night stay in a lovely boutique Manhattan hotel, with dinners out, etc. She refused me that whole time with various excuses. We spent the next week at her mom’s, preparing to move together to my school for my final year. She rejected me completely that week, too, this time because it was her mom’s house and she felt embarrassed. Then, off to school, where she continued The Chill…we had sex a handful of times over the next 9 months…I was eager and desperate to please her and often did, despite herself (though there we several times where she ended things before *I* was satisfied…). She’d say she was just sad about where we were living and homesick. We got a cat, which be both loved, and she lavished affection on him. I was indescribably jealous.
When I graduated and took a job on the west coast, we moved out here and settled into a nice, fun, life as young adults in a great city. I have a lot of fond memories of those years, but again, there was virtually no sex. I kept telling myself that I just needed to make her happier, or do more, or maybe she just needed more time…but, it never happened. When we did have sex, she was a dead fish.
At that point, we’d been married 6 years and she really wanted children. I though, great! Sex is required for that!!! And, we did have sex. But, it was tightly choreographed around her body’s schedule to maximize the chances of pregnancy. I suggested we could just do it, like, a lot and probably things would work out? But, she started worrying that she was too old and it was very stressful. So, I played along and “maximized” our opportunities…after only about 4 months of that, she was really freaking herself out that she was infertile. So, I agreed to a trip to a fertility clinic. I was pleased when their first advice was to just “have a lot of sex and wait”. That didn’t happen…she continued her charting and note taking and the infrequent, optimized, baby-making sex . Eventually, she wanted to try the next step up, which was some kind of optimized insemination by a doctor using my sperm when her ovulation was optimally ready…which I said sure, to because I wanted her happy….and, indeed that worked and our son was conceived.
Of course, babyhood and motherhood are not particularly conducive to sex. I did my best to play the part of helpful and devoted husband and dad. We had sex a handful of times over the next 2 years and, on one of those, our daughter was (implausibly) conceived.
And, before you know it, I’m 41, been married 15 years, and find myself deeply, profoundly, sad at times that I have been in an essentially sexless, and affection-less, marriage for this long.
We were always Christian, but my wife has recently become much more devoted and has been reading all kinds of self-help books for raising Godly children and, even, being a Christian wife. She had a bit of an “ah ha!” moment 6 months ago and talked openly about what a “dud” she’s been to me, sexually. I though, whoa, this is the moment I’ve been praying for…I never wanted to push her for affection because then I’d never know if it was real or not and I wanted it to be real and come from her, not me.
So, my hopes were raised. She suggests sex maybe a couple times a week, now. Maybe once every 6 weeks or so she even shows something approaching passion. Infinitely better than where we were, but still nowhere near my desire (which, I can’t be sure of because I’ve never experienced this, but would probably be a-couple-times-a-day level and, I can surely say, peppered with touches and kisses throughout the day). 95% of the time it’s just punching-the-clock type of sex for her…
Though better in most than those rough first years of marriage, in some ways, this is even more frustrating. Although it always seemed implausible to me, at least before my wife might have genuinely been unaware of my immense desire for her. Sometimes I told myself that, but I had all kinds of other explanations (usually unfavorable to me and therefore, demoralizing and depressing). Now, however, she very much knows where we are and occasionally apologizes for not being there for me…which I find almost inexplicable. If there was something I knew I could do that was in my power to make her so happy if I did it (and so dejected if I didn’t), I surely would do it. For me, trying to make her happy is a full time job with dozens of different things…hours at work, and then more hours at home trying to be a good dad and a help to her…little things, like doing grocery shopping for her early Sat morning. She often says what a jerk her friends husbands are in this way and that and, after, how she took that for granted…So, I mean, is giving me a hug or an occasional kiss really that burdensome, comparatively?
I’ve read some women’s comments that this kind of affection “just doesn’t feel right” or “it’s unnatural” and “hard”… not only does this strike me as self-centered, but frankly it seems absurd…is this really “harder” than waking up at 5am to go to work for 15 years, to deal with the vipers I deal with on a daily basis, the stress of losing employment, etc, to then get home exhausted and then continue work as a domestic partner and father?
And, if she(or other gals) had ANY idea of what it’s like to be a guy with a high libido, navigating the world today, constantly bombarded by sexual adverts and women who wear painted on clothes…it seems overtly cruel and completely without empathy. I can tell you, if I were a woman I knew my man had a drive like my own, that would be one of my top priorities because I’d know to do otherwise is playing with fire…it is a massive struggle (which, thank God, I’ve to this day resisted and remained always faithful).
Sometimes, it’s hard not to wonder if there might have been a different girl out there for me…one who would have not only fulfilled this void I have, but also had a void I could fill. There are women who flirt and dress provocatively at work, which I do my best to block completely. I often find myself feeling sorry for myself. Then, I feel awful and pray for forgiveness for not being 100% thankful all the time for all I have, especially for my kids who wouldn’t have been, had it been otherwise.
But, it is literally a daily struggle to try to understand why she’s so naturally cold to the touch and it’s hard to not at times resent her and, even be angry, at times like when I’m on the couch, at night, watching her tidy every nook of her kitchen for an hour without so much as a glance my way, only to eventually plop down and say how tired she is…the unmistakable sign of “not tonight…you’ll have to wait 24 hours for your next unlikely shot, buddy”.
So, that’s my story. And, to all you gals out there who are desperate for affection, I feel for you. Believe me, I do. And, I’d be lying if I said I didn’t resent your husbands just a little bit.
I have always felt completely alone with this issue. A few of my boyfriends couldn’t “keep up” with my libido.it’s nice to know others feel this way as well. Now I finally found a man that I love and have now been married for a year. I’m 27 and he will be 36 this year. When we first started dating we lived apart so once a week made sense. Our wedding night and honey moon I had to ask for it every night. Which was only 3 times in 11 days as newly weds. Since then it averages 10- 14 days in between and I always have to ask and rarely get approached. I know he masterbates at least four times a week. Maybe and sorry I’m tired are always the response that I receive when I approach him. I’ve tried everything, massages with happy endings so he doesn’t have to do anything for me. I started making an effort to wear lingerie, he doesn’t care for it. I lost 30 lbs., no change, gained it back, still no didn’t change. It’s not even that I want to be serviced, I just want to show my love and affection. We have had several talks before and after marriage about how sex is an expression of love and how it connects us. Even though spaced out, there was plenty of passion in the times we were together. We just passed our first year and the conversations have gotten longer and more heart breaking. He feels pressured that I ask and I try and wait but it’s not working. I’m anxious to ask but I’m anxious if I don’t. Since our last talk I haven’t asked for anything, all I do is cry and I feel unwanted and unlovable. I told him I was sorry for groveling and pressuring and now he hasn’t even looked at me and it’s been a little over two weeks. I’m so lost, I don’t know what my God or my husband wants. The more I ask, the more silence and frustration is given. Please someone help me. I’ve asked friends about this and they all look at me as though I’m crazy. None of them have this issue in their marriages. All I want to do is love my husband, and yet he seems so far away. Any advice is helpful, going to try and find a counselor soon if things don’t change.
Kayla, I’m so sorry you feel this way! Honestly, though, I think the masturbation is the issue, NOT you. He’s trained his brain to respond to himself, not to a person. He’s made sex into something which is completely self-gratifying rather than something that you experience together. Masturbation is poison in a marriage, and I’ve written about it here. I’d set some very clear boundaries that this isn’t acceptable, because he’s stealing form you, and it’s not right.
Also, Please accept the fact that we have to maintain a balance in our desire, I mean it should be controlled, we can’t have a complete sex desire satisfaction because:
The ultimate satisfaction for men, is to have sex with every sexually attractive woman they meet or see, and the ultimate satisfaction for women is to see their guy begging her and die for her until the last second of her orgasm.
but both cases are unrealistic. we have to admit and live with that.
I believe wives can,create this problem in their husbands. Some times, my wife will tell me not for 2 weeks. I feel rejected and I feel weak that I even have this need to have sex. I just want to turn off my sex drive so I won’t feel needy. I heard of guys that get frustrated, turn it off and then their wife are trying to figure out in her 40s why the guy didn’t want to have sex with her. It is simply, guys don’t want to feel weak, turn it off and don’t see the reason to turn it back on just because the wife wants it.
When a man disconnects from his sexual needs, they get very easily reignited when the period of waiting is over. I think it is rather when the husband chooses the other path, of taking care of his own needs, that he grows progressively less interested in sex.
I have same Problem. We are 6 months married. 1.5 years together.
It was so hard to admit to myself that we have an issue. I thought that he was busy, tired, exhausted, had too much pressure and responsibility- I moved to him from another country. And this all true. But true is also that it just destroys our marriage.
First I thought that I maybe crazy and disturbed that I wanted him at least once per week instead his once-twice month. Then I thought I am not attractive. (I gain 5 kilos coz stress and cravings). Then lost weight and decided he was gay and married just to have children and be like others. Then I thought he drinks too much and started fighting with that habit…
With him I realised that sex means for me so much. Not the climax(I hardly can get it) but that extreme close connection which I can feel only through sex. He says he feels connection by hugs and just laying together on the couch…
I loved him very much and I had so many passion. And steel can have. But thoughts like «ok, it just happened, now he will refuse for another two-three weeks» drive me crazy.
We had great sex when we jus met but now he can’t be bothered. He doesn’t understand/ doesn’t want to understand how this important for me and our relations.
I feel so disconnected and almost decided to divorce. But it seems so silly to separate only because of sex!!! He is perfect and very caring always, except in bed. He is very good husband, he can be awesome further. But I think after we have baby we wouldn’t have sex at all… I insisted on checking testo, but its fine.
I am 30 and I am attractive. But live like granny. I feel rejected, frustrated, angry, snap on him. And this doesn’t add enthusiasm to him of course. Eventually sex has become huge problem. He says I push on him, even when I don’t – he feels that I’m awaiting and expecting… Unfortunately yes, awaiting. And also feel angry. He new that sex is important, this is why he was so active when we met. Why after few months after he proposed me he can’t be bothered? Now when I realise that he will never change, I want to hurt him in same way as he did to me with his disinterest. Lately I was refusing him. Last time he eventually realised that I was actually refusing. He didn’t say anything but seemed surprised. And I behaved like he, when he refuses- I was nice, gave him hugs, asked is anything wrong.. I don’t know what to do though..maybe it will help? I don’t want to leave him but I can’t bear this torture.
But at least after I ‘ve read this and other articles and comments I know that I am not alone and I am not crazy or spoiled. I’ve begun reading prays for us and I hope they will help.
Wish good luck to all)
I’ve tried many of what you have said, here are some of the responses I’ve gotten.
Now you’re throwing the Bible at me? Do you want me to hate God now, too?
Who are you to judge me and tell me I’m sinning? I want God’s forgiveness, not yours, and God understands perfectly well why I dont’ want anything to do with sex.
So now you’re picking and choosing which verses justify your obsession with sex. What about the ones that say you’re supposed to die for me and sacrifice? Why do you get to pick which verses matter?
Why is it that the only thing you can see is my so-called sin? Why is it that you don’t see/appreciate the laundry, the fact that I’ve put up with [insert all his annoying behaviors] over the years, the fact that I get along great with your parents, the fact that our kids are generally happy and healthy? Why can’t you see the rest of who I am/what I do?
My wife and I don’t really have sex at all. We have been married a little over a year now and we do have a baby boy but even shortly after he was born the sex was there and now it’s not. I don’t know what to do and I really need help with how to bring it up to her. I’m afraid she isn’t attracted to me anymore and doesn’t want me at all. I really need help because I’m so lost.
Me and my husband have been together 10 years and went from him wanting sex every other week to now we go months at a time without anything other than him receiving oral sex several times a week… I never receive anything and usually if I ask about having sex he gets angry. I feel ugly and unloved. I don’t understand
Charlie–that’s a horrible situation, and I’m so sorry. But it’s okay to say, “I will no longer give you oral sex and have a one-way sexual relationship. I’m more than happy to have sex, but it has to be about both of us.” That’s how you show boundaries. Here’s a good article about that.
My wife and I have not had intercourse for many, many years. She is not enthusiastic about sex, and has many medical issues which do prevent this. We love each other very much, we are affectionate and do what we can do minus anything arousing. I confess it is hard for me, but we took vows and I love my wife. Today was very precious as I recalled those vows to her remembering those words in sickness and in health. We have been married 42 years, and while we both would love sex again, we will be thankful for the intimacy we share and all the good times together.
Is it okay to comment on such an old post? I am wondering how to frame the conversation when my husband can’t handle intimacy at all. I think the reason he avoids sex is because it might lead to intimacy. He has a lot of past trauma scars and won’t let me get close in any way. So if I frame it like you suggest here, wouldn’t that just push him farther away?