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		<title>Comment on What to Do When a Friend&#8217;s Marriage Falls Apart by Deborah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 08:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciated this post, Sheila! Thank you for linking to it from today&#039;s post.

We&#039;re in a situation now where we&#039;re praying for a friend&#039;s marriage. It&#039;s so incredibly sad. The husband has been my husband&#039;s good friend for years. When he first started dating, and later proposed to, his wife, my husband and all of his other friends urged caution, practically begging him not to marry her. Everyone but my husband&#039;s friend himself saw what a bad fit they are. The woman is not an evil person, but she&#039;s very childish, self-centered, and entitled. She hurts people constantly, and seems to feel badly about it when it&#039;s pointed out to her, but she just doesn&#039;t see it unless it&#039;s pointed out, and even then, she thinks others misinterpret her rather than that she behaved badly, so she keeps right on doing the same things, assuming that it was only that one person who would misinterpret her. Right up until the wedding day, the groom&#039;s friends tried to get him to back out. Once the vows were said, though, everyone stopped the criticism and started trying to support the marriage as best they could. It hasn&#039;t been enough. The husband recently acknowledged to himself and to my husband that he&#039;d deceived himself when he was dating his wife--she never lied to him, but he lied to himself about her personality, their expectations for marriage, and what he could and could not live with. Now he&#039;s miserable. My husband was able to help him soften his stance from &quot;immediate, unilateral divorce; I just want out&quot; to &quot;six month separation to see if we can work things out,&quot; but it&#039;s going to take an act of God to keep them together. There are no children, so it&#039;s good that no innocents are being hurt here, but there&#039;s also not that joint concern to pull them together.

Any suggestions here? I&#039;m not close to the wife, and we live half a world away, so my role seems to be prayer. My husband, however, is very close to his friend and communicates with him most days--he&#039;s working to influence him toward saving the marriage, but he also says that his friend feels that he&#039;s already given up so much and allowed so much to go on for so long, that he can&#039;t meet her halfway; he&#039;s already gone farther than halfway toward her and needs her to meet all the demands he recently gave her. (Both parties acknowledge that there are no biblical grounds for divorce, but I think they&#039;re past caring about that.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciated this post, Sheila! Thank you for linking to it from today&#8217;s post.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re in a situation now where we&#8217;re praying for a friend&#8217;s marriage. It&#8217;s so incredibly sad. The husband has been my husband&#8217;s good friend for years. When he first started dating, and later proposed to, his wife, my husband and all of his other friends urged caution, practically begging him not to marry her. Everyone but my husband&#8217;s friend himself saw what a bad fit they are. The woman is not an evil person, but she&#8217;s very childish, self-centered, and entitled. She hurts people constantly, and seems to feel badly about it when it&#8217;s pointed out to her, but she just doesn&#8217;t see it unless it&#8217;s pointed out, and even then, she thinks others misinterpret her rather than that she behaved badly, so she keeps right on doing the same things, assuming that it was only that one person who would misinterpret her. Right up until the wedding day, the groom&#8217;s friends tried to get him to back out. Once the vows were said, though, everyone stopped the criticism and started trying to support the marriage as best they could. It hasn&#8217;t been enough. The husband recently acknowledged to himself and to my husband that he&#8217;d deceived himself when he was dating his wife&#8211;she never lied to him, but he lied to himself about her personality, their expectations for marriage, and what he could and could not live with. Now he&#8217;s miserable. My husband was able to help him soften his stance from &#8220;immediate, unilateral divorce; I just want out&#8221; to &#8220;six month separation to see if we can work things out,&#8221; but it&#8217;s going to take an act of God to keep them together. There are no children, so it&#8217;s good that no innocents are being hurt here, but there&#8217;s also not that joint concern to pull them together.</p>
<p>Any suggestions here? I&#8217;m not close to the wife, and we live half a world away, so my role seems to be prayer. My husband, however, is very close to his friend and communicates with him most days&#8211;he&#8217;s working to influence him toward saving the marriage, but he also says that his friend feels that he&#8217;s already given up so much and allowed so much to go on for so long, that he can&#8217;t meet her halfway; he&#8217;s already gone farther than halfway toward her and needs her to meet all the demands he recently gave her. (Both parties acknowledge that there are no biblical grounds for divorce, but I think they&#8217;re past caring about that.)<br />
<span class="cluv">Deborah recently posted..<a class="56b50fa12b 15063" href="http://deborahreflections.blogspot.com/2012/05/rain.html">Rain</a><span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip u 15063" alt="My Profile" style="border:0" width="16" height="14" src="http://tolovehonorandvacuum.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>Comment on Wifey Wednesday: Supporting Friends&#8217; Marriages by Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 03:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah. I had never heard of that before. Well, I know my guy can handle a LOT more than I can. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah. I had never heard of that before. Well, I know my guy can handle a LOT more than I can. <img src='http://tolovehonorandvacuum.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
<span class="cluv">Jen recently posted..<a class="6f83f423fc 15062" href="http://forhehasbeengoodtome.blogspot.com/2012/05/sewing-projects-two-finished-two.html">sewing projects &#8211; two finished, two pending</a><span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip u 15062" alt="My Profile" style="border:0" width="16" height="14" src="http://tolovehonorandvacuum.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>Comment on Wifey Wednesday: Supporting Friends&#8217; Marriages by Securely Desired</title>
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		<dc:creator>Securely Desired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 02:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jen - a &quot;man cold&quot; is a stereotypical statement.  It means that men complain all the time when they are sick.  For instance, we could have pneumonia, and if he has sniffles he will complain more loudly and more often than we do.  It is a way of calling men babies who can&#039;t possibly handle as much as we can.

I agree with Heather - it is just another negative we &#039;allow&#039; in today&#039;s society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jen &#8211; a &#8220;man cold&#8221; is a stereotypical statement.  It means that men complain all the time when they are sick.  For instance, we could have pneumonia, and if he has sniffles he will complain more loudly and more often than we do.  It is a way of calling men babies who can&#8217;t possibly handle as much as we can.</p>
<p>I agree with Heather &#8211; it is just another negative we &#8216;allow&#8217; in today&#8217;s society.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wifey Wednesday: Supporting Friends&#8217; Marriages by Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 01:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get it.....what&#039;s a &quot;man cold&quot;? And why is it offensive?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get it&#8230;..what&#8217;s a &#8220;man cold&#8221;? And why is it offensive?<br />
<span class="cluv">Jen recently posted..<a class="de70a21009 15060" href="http://forhehasbeengoodtome.blogspot.com/2012/05/sewing-projects-two-finished-two.html">sewing projects &#8211; two finished, two pending</a><span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip u 15060" alt="My Profile" style="border:0" width="16" height="14" src="http://tolovehonorandvacuum.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>Comment on Wifey Wednesday: Supporting Friends&#8217; Marriages by Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 01:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of my pet peeves is when women use the term &quot;man cold&quot; to refer to their husbands being sick.  I used to just bite my tongue and seethe inside when I would (regularly) hear people speak about it but now I just stand up and say, &quot;hey, that is NOT ok&quot;.  I know it is a little thing but I remember something that my pastor&#039;s wife said to me in our pre-marriage classes about making sure that we build our spouses up in front of other people.  It is great to praise our spouse in person but how do we speak about them when they are not around?    If we confront others about the little things, kindly and in love, you would be surprised how they respond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my pet peeves is when women use the term &#8220;man cold&#8221; to refer to their husbands being sick.  I used to just bite my tongue and seethe inside when I would (regularly) hear people speak about it but now I just stand up and say, &#8220;hey, that is NOT ok&#8221;.  I know it is a little thing but I remember something that my pastor&#8217;s wife said to me in our pre-marriage classes about making sure that we build our spouses up in front of other people.  It is great to praise our spouse in person but how do we speak about them when they are not around?    If we confront others about the little things, kindly and in love, you would be surprised how they respond.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 29 Days to Great Sex Day 3: Love the Skin You&#8217;re In by Sheila</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 23:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary, I love what you said about lingerie! I&#039;ve heard that so many times, that lingerie is just empowering. So way to go!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary, I love what you said about lingerie! I&#8217;ve heard that so many times, that lingerie is just empowering. So way to go!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wifey Wednesday: Supporting Friends&#8217; Marriages by Megan G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megan G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 22:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will check it out!  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will check it out!  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on 29 Days to Great Sex Day 3: Love the Skin You&#8217;re In by Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 21:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I need to lose quite a bit more than 40 lbs, more like 80-100. I&#039;ve lost 20 so far :) But my husband loves me the way I am and tells me all the time how beautiful I am. Even when I am feeling fat and very un-sexy he puts his arms around me and wants to cuddle and kiss and it immediately makes me feel sexy and feminin. I decided to buy some sexy lingere from a plus-size store and he loved it! It made me feel sexy and powerful, not embarrased or weird at all. He&#039;s always asking me now when I&#039;m getting a new nighty! I have struggled with body issues all my life but I am blessed to have a wonderful, supportive and loving hubby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need to lose quite a bit more than 40 lbs, more like 80-100. I&#8217;ve lost 20 so far <img src='http://tolovehonorandvacuum.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  But my husband loves me the way I am and tells me all the time how beautiful I am. Even when I am feeling fat and very un-sexy he puts his arms around me and wants to cuddle and kiss and it immediately makes me feel sexy and feminin. I decided to buy some sexy lingere from a plus-size store and he loved it! It made me feel sexy and powerful, not embarrased or weird at all. He&#8217;s always asking me now when I&#8217;m getting a new nighty! I have struggled with body issues all my life but I am blessed to have a wonderful, supportive and loving hubby.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wifey Wednesday: Supporting Friends&#8217; Marriages by Sheila</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 20:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing that, Jen! Sometimes just that one little change can make such a difference in our thought patterns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing that, Jen! Sometimes just that one little change can make such a difference in our thought patterns.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wifey Wednesday: Supporting Friends&#8217; Marriages by Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 20:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*Big, not bit. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Big, not bit. <img src='http://tolovehonorandvacuum.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
<span class="cluv">Jen recently posted..<a class="6d43bd4998 15054" href="http://forhehasbeengoodtome.blogspot.com/2012/05/difference-between-scratch-tickle.html">the difference between a scratch, a tickle-scratch, and a tickle</a><span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip u 15054" alt="My Profile" style="border:0" width="16" height="14" src="http://tolovehonorandvacuum.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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