Wifey Wednesday: Is Man Cave Time Legitimate?

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It’s Wednesday, the day when we talk marriage! I introduce a topic, and then you follow up either by commenting or by writing your own post and then linking up!

Does your husband have a “man cave”? A place where he escapes to that is just for him, where he might get together with friends, but in general, no wife or kids are wanted?

 

'Man cave office' photo (c) 2009, Yasuhiko Ito - license: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/

 

Many of our guys do. Maybe that’s where they build something, or fix something, or play cards, or pursue some hobby. My husband has a “man room” in our basement where he paints little miniature soldiers, building these huge armies. And then other guys come over with their armies and they play out battles. Sounds geeky, but he really enjoys it (and from a historical perspective it is kind of cool). Two of my brothers-in-law are rebuilding old cars. While my husband is in his “man cave”, he also plays music that I just hate.

I have another friend who is leaves home every weekend in November every year. His family knows he just won’t be there, because hunting season is open. And he goes with friends to hunt. Now that his kids are getting older he’s starting to take his son, but for years it was just him, and he left his wife alone with the kids that whole month on the weekends. But he was there the rest of the year!

When we’re first married, it’s easy to resent the man cave, because why on earth would he want to get away from you? Doesn’t he love you? Doesn’t he want to be with you? And how could he take the garage/extra bedroom/shed and use it for himself, instead of letting the kids play there?

We women want to be building relationship all the time, though we may long for time to ourselves, especially when the kids are little. But men often want to hibernate by themselves, too, and even with other guys, far more than we want to go out with the girls. So this can seem quite threatening. Am I not enough?

I’d suggest that you start seeing it in a different way. There’s nothing wrong with a man cave, and in fact there can be quite a bit right about it. When a guy goes into an area that’s just his, he rejuvenates, so that he’s able to give more to the family. It doesn’t mean he doesn’t love the family; it’s just that he has other legitimate needs, too, that do need to be met. And men are very good at urging each other to be better men, just by being around each other. They may not talk about it as a topic of conversation, but when guys get together, they rub off on each other.

Hanging out with other men often inspires a guy to be responsible, to be a good provider, to be a good dad, because they’re exploring what masculinity is. It’s that whole “wild at heart” thing, where men urge to have some adventure in their lives, and often figure out their identity not just with other women, but also with other guys. We’re better at figuring out our identity ourselves, with our family. They don’t work that way.

Of course, you don’t want your husband in a man cave all the time, and if he’s retreating there and never spending any time with the family, that’s a problem. And if he’s retreating to his man cave to look at pictures of naked women, that’s a problem. So boundaries do need to be set, in the same way they need to be set for other things in our lives.

Yes, you’ll want to preserve family time. And yes, you’ll want some date time, just the two of you. But don’t deprive him of man cave time, because you may just find that the more he’s able to be in a man cave, the more comfortable he is with other roles. He doesn’t get antsy. He wants to provide. Guys often process things better alone, and when he’s alone, he’ll be able to figure things out better so that he can talk to you later. I wrote a while ago on how we should find things to do with our husbands, even if that means participating in some of our husbands’ hobbies, and I thoroughly agree with that. But if your husband has one area of his life where he’d rather just be a guy, and not have you around, that honestly is okay.

Talk to him about what you need from him with the kids, and what you’d like from him for your relationship. But let’s face it, girls: we may WANT him around all the time, but we don’t NEED him around all the time. And man time is a legitimate need for many men. So if he wants to retreat for an hour or two a night, is that really so different from you being on Facebook for an hour or two? Or you watching TV for an hour or two?

This Christmas, if you’re at a loss as to what to get your husband, maybe you should have a talk with him about whether or not he wants a physical man cave. And if your house or apartment has room for one, why not give him one?

Have you ever struggled with your husband taking time for himself? Let us know in the comments how you resolved it (or tell us your issue, and maybe we can help!).

This post is also linking up to Women Living Well Wednesday.

Now, what advice do you have for us today? Write your own Wifey Wednesday post that links back to here, and then leave the link of THAT POST in the Mcklinky below. And then please link back here, so other people can read Wifey Wednesday! Thanks!

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Now That’s a Man…

Old guy wrestles young bank robber to the ground. Watch this video, and listen to the guy’s reasoning:

I like to think my husband is a lot like this! The world could use a lot more men of this guy’s caliber.

(I know, I know. It’s dangerous to tackle a bad guy. You could get hurt, etc. etc. But it’s still rather heart-warming, isn’t it?)

 

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Male Bashing is Bad. Joking is Okay. Right?

I’ve written a lot on this blog about how we women often disparage men, and that’s a bad thing. I’ve talked about how we have to let men be men, accept that their different, and understand that just because we see the world a certain way, it doesn’t mean that we’re right and they’re stupid. It just means that we have different viewpoints. And that’s okay.

In fact, I’m quite passionate about this. I’ve written many columns in my seven years as a columnist explaining why I think male bashing is so dangerous. It makes men feel inferior, pushes them out of the family, and contributes to the marginalization of true masculinity in our society.

So I feel a little chagrined today, because I received an email after my last column accusing me of doing just that. In that column, I wrote that men are capable of thinking about nothing, and women aren’t. This is often a point of contention in a marriage.

But I went on to say that women are jealous of this brain feature and so continually try to find ways to think about nothing, to no avail. So we may berate them for it, but we also wish we could do it, every now and then.

Here’s my question: was I male bashing? I don’t think I was. First, I was talking about something which is a fact. Women have more connections in their brains than men do, which is why we recover from strokes more easily. We can’t turn off our thoughts as much. Men can.

I was also using an analogy from a best-selling book whose purpose is to explain gender differences so that we can see that neither side is right; we’re only different. I thought I was taking the same approach.

Finally, my impression was that I was, if anything, making fun of women, not men. I told how women thought about the stupidest things, and I outlined our quest to be like men. So I don’t think it was male bashing.

I do think I used humour (or at least tried to; you can be the judge of whether it was really funny). But I don’t believe I was putting men down. I was just describing an honest difference between the genders.

So here’s my question for you: was it male bashing? I’m open to being told it was. Maybe I need to be less flippant in my joking. And where is the line between joking and bashing? I do think we need to laugh at ourselves, and especially our relationships. And I think people learn better with humour. Most people honestly aren’t aware of these gender differences, and when we explain them, it often improves a relationship.

Also, I don’t think describing a difference means that you’re bashing one side or the other. Women are more emotional; is it female bashing to say so? I don’t think it is. There are differences. We need to see them.

Bashing, I think, is making fun of one gender and coming to the conclusion that this means that they’re somehow inferior, or don’t function as well. Pointing out differences, then, I don’t think is bashing.

So help me out: how do I draw the line better? I’m very against male bashing, and I don’t want to participate. But I also do want to be funny and help the general public understand some of these things (I think Christians are more in tune to gender differences than the public is, which is why I’ve been writing about it in my column, which is aimed at a general audience).

Leave a comment and help me out! Thanks so much! And enjoy your week!

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